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They are expanding the $4 rx list to include Women's Health: BC's (birth control pills) @ $9/month and Fosamax generic (alendronate) 35mg or 70mg for $9/month.
WOMEN'S HEALTH $4 $4 30-DAY $10 90-DAY DRUG NAME AND DOSAGE QUANTITY QUANTITY ESTRADIOL 0.5MG TABLET 30 90 ESTRADIOL 1MG TABLET 30 90 ESTRADIOL 2MG TABLET 30 90 ESTROPIPATE 0.75MG TABLET 30 90 ESTROPIPATE 1.5MG TABLET 30* 90 MEDROXYPROGESTERONE AC 2.5MG TABLET 30 90 MEDROXYPROGESTERONE AC 5MG TABLET 30 90 MEDROXYPROGESTERONE AC 10MG TABLET 10 90
WOMEN'S HEALTH $9 $9 30-DAY $24 90-DAY DRUG NAME AND DOSAGE QUANTITY QUANTITY New ALENDRONATE SOD 35MG 4 12 New ALENDRONATE SOD 70MG 4 12 CLOMIPHENE 50MG 5 15 New EST ESTROGEN/METHYL TESTOST DS 30 90 New EST ESTROGEN/METHYL TESTOST HS 30 90 SPRINTEC 28-DAY 28 N/A TRI-SPRINTEC 28-DAY 28 N/A NewTAMOXIFEN 10MG 60 180 NewTAMOXIFEN 20MG 30 90
$2 savings is not a big deal, but i'll stick to 30 day supply for $4. this is because drug stores have coupons for new or transfer prescription you get $25-$30 giftcard. i transfers my prescription between 4 stores (cvs, albertson, kroger, and tomthumb).
Has anyone else noticed that their WalMart drugs are close to expiration? I just filled my blood pressure medicine ($4) and it came in a plastic pack with expiration of 11/08. This has been pretty normal - expiration in about six months. I'm wondering how much of the other Rx medication is on the "old" side?
rsmo2222 said:Has anyone else noticed that their WalMart drugs are close to expiration? I just filled my blood pressure medicine ($4) and it came in a plastic pack with expiration of 11/08. This has been pretty normal - expiration in about six months. I'm wondering how much of the other Rx medication is on the "old" side?
Since most meds are good for years past their "expiration" date I guess I am wondering what the "problem" is?
rushhound said:rsmo2222 said:Has anyone else noticed that their WalMart drugs are close to expiration? I just filled my blood pressure medicine ($4) and it came in a plastic pack with expiration of 11/08. This has been pretty normal - expiration in about six months. I'm wondering how much of the other Rx medication is on the "old" side?
Since most meds are good for years past their "expiration" date I guess I am wondering what the "problem" is?
I certainly wouldn't trust drugs past their expiration, especially with the generics. There's an expiration date for a reason - the drugs start to break down and have little or no effect, possibly even causing other problems.
SafetyDance said:I certainly wouldn't trust drugs past their expiration, especially with the generics. There's an expiration date for a reason - the drugs start to break down and have little or no effect, possibly even causing other problems.i always check my exp. date carefully and throw them out w/in the next month of exp. but then, my doctor and pharmacist told me they're still good up to 1 yr from exp. date. but just a habit, i still throw them out 1 month past exp. date.
SafetyDance said:rushhound said:rsmo2222 said:Has anyone else noticed that their WalMart drugs are close to expiration? I just filled my blood pressure medicine ($4) and it came in a plastic pack with expiration of 11/08. This has been pretty normal - expiration in about six months. I'm wondering how much of the other Rx medication is on the "old" side?
Since most meds are good for years past their "expiration" date I guess I am wondering what the "problem" is?
I certainly wouldn't trust drugs past their expiration, especially with the generics. There's an expiration date for a reason - the drugs start to break down and have little or no effect, possibly even causing other problems.
"Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date".
"So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years. "
SafetyDance said:rushhound said:rsmo2222 said:Has anyone else noticed that their WalMart drugs are close to expiration? I just filled my blood pressure medicine ($4) and it came in a plastic pack with expiration of 11/08. This has been pretty normal - expiration in about six months. I'm wondering how much of the other Rx medication is on the "old" side?
Since most meds are good for years past their "expiration" date I guess I am wondering what the "problem" is?
I certainly wouldn't trust drugs past their expiration, especially with the generics. There's an expiration date for a reason - the drugs start to break down and have little or no effect, possibly even causing other problems.
The "expiration" date on US drugs is absurd. The same drug, manuactured in the same exact plant but destined for another country, often has a date several YEARS past the US date. Even the US government itself doesn't follow those guidelines. The military and other agencies consider them fully usable and effective long after the expiration date. Drugs certainly can wear out over time, but a month or so after the printed expiration date definitely isn't going to hurt anything.
"Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date".
"So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years. "
As a pharmacist (I also work at a major drug company) I can tell you that information is 100% INCORRECT.
Drug stability is determined by the drug manufacturing company. They do extensive studies that last years and CLOSELY monitor drug stabiliy and degradation products. This data is submitted with the regulatory filing to the FDA for each drug product. This data NEVER comes from the FDA. Each different drug product requires very specific methods for testing which drug companies spend a lot of time optimizing.
The expiration is the length of time a drug is GUARANTEED (Buy the manufacturer) to maintain a level of potency (Generally 90%) of its original strength when stored at the labelled conditions (Usually CONTROLLED room temperature). That means if you store it in the bathroom medicine cabinet (As many do) which is a moist and warm environment, the drugs will degrade or lose potency FASTER than the expiration date. And generics and brand name products may have different expiration depending on materials used in the formulation process, even for the exact same ingredient. So the expiration on drug X from company A may be 5 years, but may only be 2 years from company B.
That "Blanket" statement is ridiculous as all drugs degrade at different rates and some have dangerous degradation by-products. I can guarantee that no prescription drug lasts 15 years at room temperature. Most last 2 years before the potency is considered low, some may last 3-4 years. 5 is typically about as long as a drug will last (Under IDEAL conditions). 15 years is just absurd. While the drugs may be "Safe" as in no dangerous degradation products, they will certainly no be "Effective" in that they will have lost most, if not all of their potency.
If a drug company chooses a two year expiration date for its particular drug for example, it does not have to test beyond that date that for effectiveness. The FDA has no control on the arbitrary expiration dates manufacturers use on their prescription and over the counter medications, as long as they have studies to back it up. Expiration dates are also used as a marketing tool, which in the long run benefits drug manufacturers. If certain drugs were found to have a longer shelf life, then it would decrease the turnover rates and profits for many drug-manufacturing companies.
"Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date".
"So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years. "
As a pharmacist (I also work at a major drug company) I can tell you that information is 100% INCORRECT.
Drug stability is determined by the drug manufacturing company. They do extensive studies that last years and CLOSELY monitor drug stabiliy and degradation products. This data is submitted with the regulatory filing to the FDA for each drug product. This data NEVER comes from the FDA. Each different drug product requires very specific methods for testing which drug companies spend a lot of time optimizing.
The expiration is the length of time a drug is GUARANTEED (Buy the manufacturer) to maintain a level of potency (Generally 90%) of its original strength when stored at the labelled conditions (Usually CONTROLLED room temperature). That means if you store it in the bathroom medicine cabinet (As many do) which is a moist and warm environment, the drugs will degrade or lose potency FASTER than the expiration date. And generics and brand name products may have different expiration depending on materials used in the formulation process, even for the exact same ingredient. So the expiration on drug X from company A may be 5 years, but may only be 2 years from company B.
That "Blanket" statement is ridiculous as all drugs degrade at different rates and some have dangerous degradation by-products. I can guarantee that no prescription drug lasts 15 years at room temperature. Most last 2 years before the potency is considered low, some may last 3-4 years. 5 is typically about as long as a drug will last (Under IDEAL conditions). 15 years is just absurd. While the drugs may be "Safe" as in no dangerous degradation products, they will certainly no be "Effective" in that they will have lost most, if not all of their potency.
"I can tell you that information is 100% INCORRECT." Bold and very wrong statement! I will take my chances on information from many sources that disagree with you.
So you have conducted your own clinical trials that have trumped the ones the army did for the federal government? I guess I missed that press release. Plus you contradict yourself in your own damning of widely accepted information. I personally would not take something 15 years old simply because they will lose potency. I would not think twice about using something like a anti-inflammatory or allergy med that is several years past their "expiration" date.
My only original point was it is silly to be worrying about your meds expiring at some point in the future when you will have used them before that time. Also telling people with chronic conditions that their expired meds will "hurt" them and lead them to not take them can be dangerous. Someone that takes a blood pressure pill that is 2-3 years past the expiration date is far better off even if the med may have lost some low percentage of its original potency. Plus generics only have to be within 20% high and 20% low of the name brand drug. So it really makes a minimal amount of difference if they lose some potency. Meds like antiarrhythmics are something I would prefer to not be many years old. Again if you don't have the money to purchase new then it's better than not taking anything
"I can tell you that information is 100% INCORRECT." Bold and very wrong statement! I will take my chances on information from many sources that disagree with you.
So you have conducted your own clinical trials that have trumped the ones the army did for the federal government? I guess I missed that press release. Plus you contradict yourself in your own damning of widely accepted information. I personally would not take something 15 years old simply because they will lose potency. I would not think twice about using something like a anti-inflammatory or allergy med that is several years past their "expiration" date.
My only original point was it is silly to be worrying about your meds expiring at some point in the future when you will have used them before that time. Also telling people with chronic conditions that their expired meds will "hurt" them and lead them to not take them can be dangerous. Someone that takes a blood pressure pill that is 2-3 years past the expiration date is far better off even if the med may have lost some low percentage of its original potency. Plus generics only have to be within 20% high and 20% low of the name brand drug. So it really makes a minimal amount of difference if they lose some potency. Meds like antiarrhythmics are something I would prefer to not be many years old. Again if you don't have the money to purchase new then it's better than not taking anything
First I'd like to see ACTUAL data of a pharmaceutical drug on a formal stabilty study that maintains its' potency after 15 years. Search all you want, you won't find any data to support this as not 15 year study has EVER been done. The longest I have ever seen is 5 years.
Clinical trials? The army has actual clinical data. If this data was generated it was not done in a clinic. It would have been done in a lab. Two entirely different things.
Meds hurting people.... For the most part not because of actual degradation of the drugs (But there are a few that can be dangerous when beyond theor expiration). The risk of hurting people lies in the lack of potency. Drugs have a therapeutice window (The blood level required for a drug to have pharmaceutical efficacy up to the level of toxicity). Drugs are designed to maintain those levels based on dosage and frequency of use. A low dose product may fall below the level of efficacy and therefore not work as indicated. I would hate to be the person on an anti-coagulant (Blood thinner) or anti-arrythmic that was being taken at a sub-therapeutic dose. That could lead to anything from some mild discomfort on the low end to a trip to the hospital or even being FATAL at the other extreme.
As for the 20% high or low stat you mentioned, I suggest you go to your local library and look in a book called the USP (US Pharmacopeia) and try to find one drug product that allows a 20% high or low assay. When you find one show it to me.....
A drug company would love to have a product that is stable for 15 years, if I could find one my boss would give me the Nobel prize. That is every drug companies dream product. We spend BILLIONS of dollars every year testing stability products. This "Finding" of a 15 year stable drug would REVOLUTIONIZE drug manufacturing. Why is this? We make products in batches large enough design to cover the supply of the drug for that time period. Meaning why make a batch of drug product that will be a 4 year supply when it will expire in 2 years. Any unsold product beyond the expiration gets returned to the drug manufacturer for credit.
rsuaver said:The $9 Women's Health drugs were added like 6 months ago... The $10 90 day supply is new.
I've seen a similarly advertised program at the local ShopRite for $11.99 for 90 days. But agree that this is better...
Tri-sprintec/Sprintec was added to the Women's health in California as of today only (*) along with 6 other states, how can alendronate be on the Women's Health list 6 month's ago, when it was just been available as generic 1.5 months ago?
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