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Mike...
Any word on 5/3 Business card? I'm looking to do a mini-biz-o-rama and I see on their site that you have to call in to apply. Was it a fairly brief interview? Looking for some good biz 0% cards and the 12 month/no fee offer looks good on this one.


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the 5th 3rd is only available in certain states, but there are cobranded banks that offer a 5th 3rd serviced card nationwide.


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Mike, in case you still hadn't heard about your BOA Platinum Plus, I applied using your link (thank you) and even though I've yet to hear from them either, the card showed up online with my other accounts a couple days after I submitted my app. I see you have another BOA card so if you're as impatient as me you might want to login and check. I called them and reallocated a chunk of credit from my other card, plus they did the no fee BT right into my checking acct, couldn't be easier!


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dl73 said:Mike, in case you still hadn't heard about your BOA Platinum Plus, I applied using your link (thank you) and even though I've yet to hear from them either, the card showed up online with my other accounts a couple days after I submitted my app. I see you have another BOA card so if you're as impatient as me you might want to login and check. I called them and reallocated a chunk of credit from my other card, plus they did the no fee BT right into my checking acct, couldn't be easier!

Were you able to reallocate without the actual card in hand? I was instantly approved for the same card, and I also see it online with my other BoA accounts, but I still haven't received the card yet.


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PolarDude said:the 5th 3rd is only available in certain states, but there are cobranded banks that offer a 5th 3rd serviced card nationwide.

do you have a list?

EDIT:

google is my friend


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ahself said:Were you able to reallocate without the actual card in hand? I was instantly approved for the same card, and I also see it online with my other BoA accounts, but I still haven't received the card yet.

Yes, was able to reallocate and initiate the balance transfer without receiving the card, they just had to do a few extra security steps/questions. I saw the reallocation show online immediately after I got off the phone.


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MikeR397 said:FYI - I cancelled my Advanta card less than 2 weeks ago and applied for a new one yesterday (to escape their one card rule), and got an email that I was approved this morning . No word on the CL yet. Pretty good fact, given thier 15 mo BT offer.

Does anyone know if you already had a Bank Atlantic biz card, do you need to close it before reapply or you can just apply for 2nd one and merge CL later?

For those of you done AOR biz with 15 mon. term, do you in a hurry to pay it off when you pay your personal card off when 12 mon. term is up and ready for next round? Since it pulls personal credit report, can I assume it won't affect my next round AOR for biz and take the full advantage of 15 months?


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UnixLab said:MikeR397 said:FYI - I cancelled my Advanta card less than 2 weeks ago and applied for a new one yesterday (to escape their one card rule), and got an email that I was approved this morning . No word on the CL yet. Pretty good fact, given thier 15 mo BT offer.

Does anyone know if you already had a Bank Atlantic biz card, do you need to close it before reapply or you can just apply for 2nd one and merge CL later?

For those of you done AOR biz with 15 mon. term, do you in a hurry to pay it off when you pay your personal card off when 12 mon. term is up and ready for next round? Since it pulls personal credit report, can I assume it won't affect my next round AOR for biz and take the full advantage of 15 months?

I'm a little confused by your post, so I'll just tell you what I know. Every small business credit card I've applied for, including the Bank Atlantic card, generated a hard credit inquiry on my personal report. The difference is that the account balances don't show on your personal credit reports. The only exception to that I've seen so far is the CitiProfessional Card, which shows on my personal credit reports. But that's more of a hybrid card than a true business card. So the account balances on your business cards shouldn't affect your personal credit reports, including your credit scores.

In summary, you must consider your personal credit card balances before you embark on either a personal AOR, a business AOR, or a combination of the two.


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Thanks glxpass.

for example, You do AOR on both personal and Biz 12 months ago. you got Bank Atlantic 0% for 15mon. Now, 12 months later, you have paid off all your personal card "debt" from AOR and ready to go on another AOR. Should I pay off the rest balance on Bank Atlantic before you start the new combined AOR even they are 3 more months to go. Or you can start AOR without pay off Bank Atlantic debt and it won't affect your new biz card application.

And I am also curious about if anyone who currently have Bank Atlantic biz try to get the same card for 2nd time without cancel the old card.


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UnixLab said:Thanks glxpass.

for example, You do AOR on both personal and Biz 12 months ago. you got Bank Atlantic 0% for 15mon. Now, 12 months later, you have paid off all your personal card "debt" from AOR and ready to go on another AOR. Should I pay off the rest balance on Bank Atlantic before you start the new combined AOR even they are 3 more months to go. Or you can start AOR without pay off Bank Atlantic debt and it won't affect your new biz card application.

And I am also curious about if anyone who currently have Bank Atlantic biz try to get the same card for 2nd time without cancel the old card.

If your business credit balances aren't revealed on your personal credit report, then I'd say you can start a personal-only AOR, as long as inquiries have dropped off, and accounts have aged adequately, IOW, your FICO scores have recovered. I can think of one possible exception to this, however: If one of the personal cards is from the same issuer as an ongoing business BT, then that information might be exposed. For example, if you had a new Juniper National Park Foundation personal card (a Barclay's card), and an on-going BT with BankAtantic BusinessCard (also a Barclay's card), then I don't know whether they'd be visible to one another and possibly cause adverse action by Barclay's.


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Just got back from Vegas. Up $1,000 on $5 blackjack tables, which includes the last night of 13 hours straight with a $510 profit . Nothing like a free trip to Vegas. (O ya, and also up about 100 free premium drinks)

Good news so far with respect to most card decisions...I'll post more updates when I have time at work tomorrow.

Potentially very bad news...just called citi to consolidate to my CashRewards card and was told that card was reviewed this morning and cancelled becuase "I have too much open credit." I told the account manager that made absolutely no sense to me and politely asked it to be reopened. He agreed that he didn't see why it was closed and said he was almost certain he would get it reopened within 24 hours for me and gave me a number to call back. I'd give it less than 50/50 chance, but I'm really hoping this won't be another extreme example of Citi AA. I've never had any AA from them before, and I use their cards as a daily spenders for the last 5 years also.


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jackcrawfish said:I expect 30+ green for you on this one.It's official... 31 positive and the ever negative poo = 30 green for your thread, Mike.

Will you apply for a WAMU account (after logging in to see offer)?


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jackcrawfish said:jackcrawfish said:I expect 30+ green for you on this one.It's official... 31 positive and the ever negative poo = 30 green for your thread, Mike.

Will you apply for a WAMU account (after logging in to see offer)?
Nope, not going to do the WAMU card. I only have a $2k limit with them right now, so not going to bother with it. I've got some AA from citi, they closed my most prized possession (Cash Rewards card), and I'm very busy fighting that right now unfortunately. They have also closed this card for my sister after giving her a $25k limit. So very upset about these matters. I'll post back with details.


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jackcrawfish said:jackcrawfish said:I expect 30+ green for you on this one.It's official... 31 positive and the ever negative poo = 30 green for your thread, Mike.

I suspect this will unleash a virtuous circle. At least I fell for it: I gave it green now.


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MikeR397 said:O ya, and also up about 100 free premium drinks


you did not tip? no wonder US economy is going under...


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^^ I tipped, but I would have tipped for a drink that cost money as well, so the tip is really a sunk cost, not to be included in my price analysis.


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Getting some more status updates. Overall this is looking like sort of a crappy AOR (relatively speaking) for me personally, not that I had the highest of hopes given my short credit history and the current condition of our financial markets. National City denied me becuase I already have a card with them, and they refuse to close it in order to open a new card becuase I also have a lot of new inquiries. They were actually quite mean about the whole ordeal.

US bank wants proof of income for my house becuase my debt to income ratio is not >25% (it is around a healthy 9%), so I'll fax that in and hopefully get approved (they said it can be household income).

I'll still be very happy with this AOR if I can get Citi to reopen my Cash Rewards card. Will call back in a couple hours today to see what they say. I don't really have high hopes for it. I'm still not sure if my other new Citi cards (including the business one) are closed or not. I'm not going to mention them until I get the Cash Rewards situation finalized on way or another.

As for the good news, I got a new $27k of credit from Chase to add to my old $20k of credit, which I can hide as much as I want on the business side.


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Green for MikeR. I appreciate your candor.

These reports are most helpful when they include all the details.

I have to admit that I was a bit nervous for you when you started and I'm happy that it seems to be turning out OK- with the exception of Citi.

The fact that you use Citi as a daily spender *should* help your case-- Citi loves usage. If you can offer them
proof of assets it may make them more comfortable.

The trick will be getting to speak to the right person.

I hope you're successful- let us know how it goes.


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UnixLab said:

Does anyone know if you already had a Bank Atlantic biz card, do you need to close it before reapply or you can just apply for 2nd one and merge CL later?


Bank Atlantic is based upon your personal SSN. At no time did they ever ask for my company's EIN or other pertinent information like company revenue or income.

To my knowledge, like Advanta, Bank Atlantic only allows one card per SSN.

Given that Bank Atlantic is relatively generous with their credit lines, and flexible when reallocating from personal to business (once you discover the correct phone number to call), I think that closing the account and reapplying would be counterproductive.


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Wonderful thread, Mike - full of great info. Was that Wachovia app by phone? If so, what did they say? Also, I might have missed it, but what revenue did you put on the biz apps, and is the biz reporting anywhere?


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